barack obama puts himself above the interests of whatever. it's all about me. it's me, me, me. that's not what this is about but the people of sandy hook and want gun legislation. >> one of the triggers that worked so well on the far right was to say, you know, this is obama's legislation and to really try to use him. in fact, he stayed away from the legislation and really tried to focus on the outside game rather than being involved in the legislation, itself. >> yeah. and that's absolutely right. if you want to talk about personalizing the issue, those newtown families, those moms who came up, the sisters and mothers and children and friends and families of those victims. gabby giffords, herself, a gun violence victim. the people who were directly impacted by the bills, who were to asuede, they took this personally. they lobbied the hill and were told, too bad, no. >> let's talk about the politics on this. one of the things that strikes me, here we have this horrible tragedy on monday and we all ask ourselves, what withcan we do t change it